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''For immediate clinical management see "[[Replantation]]"'' | ''For immediate clinical management see "[[Replantation]]"'' | ||
=== [https://lacounty.sharepoint.com/:b:/t/EDOperations-HUCLA-5-JenandKelsey/EQZqEWzpwb9MsHyxQrYssJYBrBGw6WhoXSMky23Cti6m2Q?e=kid0Z9 Replant Flow Diagram] === | |||
==Transfer Protocol== | ==Transfer Protocol== | ||
* Obtain a STAT Hand Call Consult and page out as a TTA2 if not done already | * Obtain a STAT Hand Call Consult and page out as a TTA2 if not done already | ||
** Hand | ** Hand Call consultant should come to the ED for emergent evaluation | ||
*** '''The Hand Call resident must staff with their attending prior to recommending transfer''' | |||
*** '''The | |||
* If the patient is deemed a potential replantation candidate: | * If the patient is deemed a potential replantation candidate: | ||
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**** Name of transferring (sending) attending physician and the name of the DEM AOD*** | **** Name of transferring (sending) attending physician and the name of the DEM AOD*** | ||
**** Location: ED room number | **** Location: ED room number | ||
** MAC will connect the ED attending with the LAG Hand Call ATTENDING via recorded line to discuss the replant candidate transfer | ** MAC will connect the '''ED attending with the LAG Hand Call ATTENDING''' via recorded line to discuss the replant candidate transfer | ||
*** The | *** The Hand Call consultant (senior resident) should be immediately available to answer any technical questions from the LAG Replant Surgeon on the recorded MAC line; '''if there is any discrepancy, the HUMC Hand Call ATTENDING must speak with the LAG Hand Call ATTENDING''' | ||
*** If the LAG Attending cannot be reached within '''15 minutes''', MAC will contact the LAG CMO/MOD and MAC Medical Supervisor to present the transfer request | *** If the LAG Attending cannot be reached within '''15 minutes''', MAC will contact the LAG CMO/MOD and MAC Medical Supervisor to present the transfer request | ||
*** If the transfer is not initiated wihin 60 minutes, MAC will contact the DHS CMO | *** If the transfer conversation is not initiated wihin 60 minutes, MAC will contact the DHS CMO | ||
** Once the patient is accepted for transfer, ED provider coordinates further transfer logistics via MAC | ** Once the patient is accepted for transfer, ED provider coordinates further transfer logistics via MAC | ||
*** '''Ask MAC for ETA of transport''' | *** '''Ask MAC for ETA of transport''' | ||
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** '''If MAC is unable to provide transport for Higher Level of Care Urgent/Emergent transfer within a reasonable amount of time (less than 2 hours) this issue should be escalated to the MAC Medical Officer of the Day (MOD), DEM Admin on Duty (AOD), and the Attending Trauma Surgeon''' | ** '''If MAC is unable to provide transport for Higher Level of Care Urgent/Emergent transfer within a reasonable amount of time (less than 2 hours) this issue should be escalated to the MAC Medical Officer of the Day (MOD), DEM Admin on Duty (AOD), and the Attending Trauma Surgeon''' | ||
**TRANSFERS FOR POTENTIAL REPLANTATION WILL PROCEED REGARDLESS OF WHETHER LAG HAS AVAILABLE BEDS (even if closed to transfers per USC CMO Dr. Spellberg) | **TRANSFERS FOR POTENTIAL REPLANTATION WILL PROCEED REGARDLESS OF WHETHER LAG HAS AVAILABLE BEDS (even if closed to transfers per USC CMO Dr. Spellberg) | ||
Gausche-Hill, Mahajan, Chappell, Wilhelm 7/1/24 | |||
==Dealing with Disagreements Regarding Transfer== | ==Dealing with Disagreements Regarding Transfer== | ||
* If there is disagreement between HUCLA ED/Trauma/ | * If there is disagreement between HUCLA ED/Trauma/Ortho Consultant and Hand LAC+USC Replantation service about proceeding with replantation then '''HUCLA Ortho Attending must talk to LAC+USC Replantation Attending on the recorded MAC line''' | ||
* If there continues to be disagreement - the patient WILL be accepted by LAC+USC for an in-person evaluation by the replantation service (per CMO's at LAC+USC and HUCLA) - please involve both Trauma Attending and Hand Attending [[https://wikem.org/wiki/DEM_Admin_on_Duty_(AOD)|DEM Admin on Duty (AOD)]] | * If there continues to be disagreement - the patient WILL be accepted by LAC+USC for an in-person evaluation by the replantation service (per CMO's at LAC+USC and HUCLA) - please involve both Trauma Attending and Hand Attending [[https://wikem.org/wiki/DEM_Admin_on_Duty_(AOD)|DEM Admin on Duty (AOD)]] | ||
** After in-person evaluation by the LAG re-plant surgeon, this may result in operative intervention | |||
** If the patient is deemed non-operative, the patient will either be discharged by LAG or returned via County Trans to HUMC (rare event) | |||
==Repatriation== | ==Repatriation== | ||
Latest revision as of 07:22, 24 September 2025
For immediate clinical management see "Replantation"
Replant Flow Diagram
Transfer Protocol
- Obtain a STAT Hand Call Consult and page out as a TTA2 if not done already
- Hand Call consultant should come to the ED for emergent evaluation
- The Hand Call resident must staff with their attending prior to recommending transfer
- Hand Call consultant should come to the ED for emergent evaluation
- If the patient is deemed a potential replantation candidate:
- The ED ATTENDING should call the MAC at 866-940-4401 and state:
- "We are requesting an emergent/urgent transfer from HUMC ED to LAG ED for replant evaluation; I need you to arrange the transfer"
- All Emergent/Urgent requests should get transfer approval/dispositioned within 60 minutes. DHS Policy 373.3 MAC Transfers
- MAC will ask for below info (at a minimum)
- Patient’s name + MRN
- Primary diagnosis
- Reason for transfer
- Triage status: Emergent/Urgent
- Name of transferring (sending) attending physician and the name of the DEM AOD***
- Location: ED room number
- MAC will connect the ED attending with the LAG Hand Call ATTENDING via recorded line to discuss the replant candidate transfer
- The Hand Call consultant (senior resident) should be immediately available to answer any technical questions from the LAG Replant Surgeon on the recorded MAC line; if there is any discrepancy, the HUMC Hand Call ATTENDING must speak with the LAG Hand Call ATTENDING
- If the LAG Attending cannot be reached within 15 minutes, MAC will contact the LAG CMO/MOD and MAC Medical Supervisor to present the transfer request
- If the transfer conversation is not initiated wihin 60 minutes, MAC will contact the DHS CMO
- Once the patient is accepted for transfer, ED provider coordinates further transfer logistics via MAC
- Ask MAC for ETA of transport
- Estimated Transport Arrival times:
- Basic Life Support (BLS) – Transport – This level of transport consists of two (2) Emergency Medical Technician I’s (EMT-Is). The average estimated time of arrival (ETA) for a BLS Unit is 30-45 minutes.
- Advanced Life Support (ALS) or Critical Care Transport (CCT) – This level of transport requires ALS personnel (EMT Paramedic (EMT-P) or nurse). The average EMT-P ETA is 45 minutes, and 120 minutes for a nurse staffed ambulance.
- MAC should arrange transportation via the Central Dispatch office; the ED clerk does NOT arrange transport for these patients
- Estimated Transport Arrival times:
- Ask MAC for ETA of transport
- If MAC is unable to provide transport for Higher Level of Care Urgent/Emergent transfer within a reasonable amount of time (less than 2 hours) this issue should be escalated to the MAC Medical Officer of the Day (MOD), DEM Admin on Duty (AOD), and the Attending Trauma Surgeon
- TRANSFERS FOR POTENTIAL REPLANTATION WILL PROCEED REGARDLESS OF WHETHER LAG HAS AVAILABLE BEDS (even if closed to transfers per USC CMO Dr. Spellberg)
- The ED ATTENDING should call the MAC at 866-940-4401 and state:
Gausche-Hill, Mahajan, Chappell, Wilhelm 7/1/24
Dealing with Disagreements Regarding Transfer
- If there is disagreement between HUCLA ED/Trauma/Ortho Consultant and Hand LAC+USC Replantation service about proceeding with replantation then HUCLA Ortho Attending must talk to LAC+USC Replantation Attending on the recorded MAC line
- If there continues to be disagreement - the patient WILL be accepted by LAC+USC for an in-person evaluation by the replantation service (per CMO's at LAC+USC and HUCLA) - please involve both Trauma Attending and Hand Attending [Admin on Duty (AOD)]
- After in-person evaluation by the LAG re-plant surgeon, this may result in operative intervention
- If the patient is deemed non-operative, the patient will either be discharged by LAG or returned via County Trans to HUMC (rare event)
Repatriation
- If the patient is transferred to LAC+USC and after evaluation it is decided that replantation is not indicated - HUCLA WILL accept the patient back in transfer.
